These are massive.

"jkm7680" (jkm7680) 07/13/2015 at 19:38 • Filed to: None

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Not my picture, but my local FD has a few Excursions. Holy shit, talk about cavernous.

Also, the more you know, they also have a ‘95 Suburban in really shitty shape still in service.

Nibby > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 19:41

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I still kinda want one. Especially one with a current Super Duty front end swap.

jkm7680 > Nibby 07/13/2015 at 19:43

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Daaaamn, all that and a 6.8 V10 getting -300 mpg!

fhrblig > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 19:45

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I hated the way the Excursion drove. I feel like even the Econoline is way more lithe and nimble in traffic. The Suburban and Yukon XL are significantly better vehicles.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 19:47

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Partially learned to drive in one.

ly2v8-Brian > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 19:47

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Not really, but I drive a large vehicle so my perception is different.

MultiplaOrgasms > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 19:47

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Has anyone ever done a twin 6.8 V10 engined Excursion?

RockThrillz89 > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 19:48

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Old friend of mine’s mother had one. She got in a fight with a 18 wheeler (it was a tie by the way). While the Excursion was in the shop, they got a Suburban loaner. He bitched every day about how small the Suburban was.

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 19:57

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NYPD/FDNY have more than a few of these. Why do my tax dollars pay for these things? At most they need Explorers. You would not believe the unnecessary gear these knuckleheads have.

jkm7680 > Steve in Manhattan 07/13/2015 at 20:03

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I’d rather my tax dollars go to fueling an Excursion than switching out other vehicles every 50k or so. Cough, crappy Impalas.

Even the Police carry so much unnecessary shit, luckily they’re holding onto their Crown Vics pretty tightly.

whoarder is tellurium > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 20:06

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All I know is they retain value like a mofo, especially in the 7.3 powerstroke flavor. Also, I’d take one in a heartbeat... for reasons.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > fhrblig 07/13/2015 at 20:07

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Highway on ramp you say? Faster than 40kmh? You couldn’t drag a pen outta my ass with a bulldozer.

Berang > RockThrillz89 07/13/2015 at 20:51

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How fat was this man?

/snide quip

Berang > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 20:53

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Excursion was Ford’s modern day Edsel. At least this one has found an owner that actually needs it.

Spasoje > Nibby 07/13/2015 at 21:06

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That’s actually a new Super Duty, custom converted into being a ‘new Excursion’. This company makes them: http://www.customautosbytim.com/

Squid > jkm7680 07/13/2015 at 21:21

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The fire stations by me all run kodiaks/top kicks. . . but then again they do deal with having to haul lots of gear to forest fires.

Nibby > Spasoje 07/13/2015 at 21:41

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Even better. Brb robbing a bank

RockThrillz89 > Berang 07/13/2015 at 22:03

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Fair question to be honest. He wasn't big at all. Neither were his parents. I think it had more to do with the interior layout to be honest. They had money, so I would not be surprised if that excursion had captains chairs for the second row. Which will open up a lot of floor space compared to two rows of bench seats.

jkm7680 > Squid 07/13/2015 at 22:58

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They’re mainly EMS support and battalion chiefs.

boxrocket > fhrblig 07/14/2015 at 00:19

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I feel the opposite way. Subukolade XL ESVs feel wobbly and cumbersome, like a bus on old springs. The Excursions, while clearly trucklike, feel nimble enough to drive through a lazy, well-spaced slalom course with a full load of passengers, cargo, and a big-ass boat or trailer in tow. Newer Super Duties with their bigger, power-telescoping mirrors and surround-view cameras make me feel like I could thread a needle with the same loadout.

boxrocket > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 00:24

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They’re really not that big. Just over two inches longer than a 2014+ suburban/yukon xl/escalade esv, which is mostly imperceptible.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 03:05

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i believe it was the heaviest production SUV at the time too

jkm7680 > boxrocket 07/14/2015 at 08:54

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They feel bigger for some reason...

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 09:41

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Here it is Fusions, Taurii, and the odd Volt as well - and even the crappy Impalas go 300-400K. And there is no excuse for a pig like the Excursion. I’ve driven Expedition/Navigator, and those are ridiculous vehicles. I can only imagine what a larger, truck-based lard bucket is like.

jkm7680 > Steve in Manhattan 07/14/2015 at 09:49

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300-400k? I haven’t even see a successful 100k out of one.

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 10:47

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NYC bothers to maintain them.

jkm7680 > Steve in Manhattan 07/14/2015 at 11:34

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Are you sure they even see that kind of mileage? Last time I checked, the NYPD didn’t keep cars long enough to do that.

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 12:39

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Unless a cop I talked to was bullshitting me. I will say this - note that Impalas were never seriously in the taxi fleet. Seeing one was as rare as seeing a Lexus 400h taxi (yes, they exist ). Reasons? Impala never came as a hybrid, and they’re front drive - taxi operators are clinging to the Crown Vic as long as they can because it is dumb technology. Parts remain plentiful and they’re easy to work on. I’ve heard tell of Vics with 800K on them - the most I’ve seen in one I’ve been in was 540K.

The police cars now - lots of Fusions, fewer Chargers, some Taurii, Explorers. A few Volts, but mostly you see those as traffic enforcement or garbage inspectors.

jkm7680 > Steve in Manhattan 07/14/2015 at 12:48

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Are Crown Vics still relatively common in NYC? I’d hate to see them go away.

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 14:52

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I want to say they’re still roughly 35-40 percent of the fleet. I’ve been here long enough to remember when they stretched the Crown Vic taxi to give about 6 more inches of legroom. Made a huge difference.

jkm7680 > Steve in Manhattan 07/14/2015 at 14:54

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Yup, the LWB ones were super comfy. Glad that they’re keeping them around though.

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 15:07

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Sandy destroyed the last bunch of Crown Vics, and I think the rule is a taxi can’t be more than six years old. If that’s the case, they’ll be gone by ... next year?

jkm7680 > Steve in Manhattan 07/14/2015 at 15:14

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Ah, two years for late 2011 models. Probably a few more will stick around after that.

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 16:37

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Let me put it this way - when a Crown Vic pulls up I am pleased to get in. When it’s one of those Transit/Courier things, the seats and sometimes the suspensions are collapsed. Horrible. But as I’ve said before in this space - best taxi is the Toyota Highlander Hybrid. Great ride, comfy seats, and built like the proverbial bank vault.

jkm7680 > Steve in Manhattan 07/14/2015 at 18:43

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Meh, I'd take a Crown Vic any day over or of those.

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 18:51

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Trust me - next time you’re in NYC hail a Highlander. Superb.

jkm7680 > Steve in Manhattan 07/14/2015 at 18:59

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Meh, I’ve ridden in a civilian Highlander before. Can’t say the legroom was superb, was there a partition?

Steve in Manhattan > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 19:02

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Don’t recall on any of them, but if there was, it did not impact legroom. And I am 6 feet tall.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > jkm7680 07/14/2015 at 22:34

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Because they are 3/4 ton based with solid axles front and rear, so more ground clearance.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Berang 07/14/2015 at 22:35

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It was perfect for big families that liked to go camping.

jkm7680 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/14/2015 at 22:37

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That too, haha.

I’ve seen an couple of them being driven by suburban soccer moms. But the majority of them are city/fire/pd owned it seems.

Berang > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/15/2015 at 01:46

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Well that explains why they sold so poorly.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Berang 07/15/2015 at 09:52

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They sold pretty well...

Berang > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/15/2015 at 10:20

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Nope. They sold poorly. They sold fewer per year than Edsels, and yet the Edsel is considered a HUGE failure. Kind of funny. Heck Chevy sold more Corvairs per year after Nader “killed sales” than Ford sold Excursions even in their best years. Even Yugo sold more cars in the U.S. in their best year than Ford sold Excursions in their best year.

I’m honestly surprised Ford didn’t axe the Excursion sooner. Maybe they tried to keep it alive long enough to get their money back out of the tooling. In any event it did not sell well.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Berang 07/15/2015 at 10:26

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1. Edsel was it’s own brand.

2. For a specialized vehicle, the fact that I see them relatively often says they sold well enough.